Philipp Lepenies, professor of politics and Principal Investigator at SCRIPTS, talks to the podcast Kulturweit from German public broadcaster BR about his recently published book Verbot und Verzicht. He outlines that through the war in Ukraine, commodities such as for example oil are now associated with moral aspects. In Germany, interference by the state and the prohibition or regulation of consumption is looked upon with reluctance says Lepenies. However, this interference might be necessary to push for a wider transformation. To make this understandable for more people, investment in political and civic education could be helpful. Listen to the German podcast here.